I'm writing to acknowledge last week's thoughtful letter from Margaret Amick about marriage equality and the benefits and rights same-sex couples would receive if they could also be legally married.

What many folks don't take into consideration, though, is the love and commitment of many same-sex couples and the many years they have been together, sharing a life much like other folks: paying bills, buying houses, raising children, seeing grandchildren born, putting down a companion pet, visiting relatives, sharing holidays, and yes, even arguing over who puts out the garbage.

All we want is to be able to stand, hand-in-hand, in front of our friends and family and celebrate our commitment to each other and have the same legal recognition as everyone else.

Much like Margaret Amick, I don't see how this will affect your marriage, the 'institution' of marriage, or the 'ideal' of marriage. Some will be long-lived, some will not. Some will be blissful, others may sour. Kind of like most marriages, don't you think?

For more thoughtful conversations about this and other human dignity issues, join the Tillamook County Citizens for Human Dignity every second Tuesday, 6-8 pm, for a potluck at the Tillamook Library.

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traveler

Good point, now trying to convince the simple-minded folks who believe everything the FOX network tells them. My mother watched FOX and Glenn Beck so much she believed that Obama was going to take over General Mills (GM). I had to explain to her what exactly was going on and that her cereal wouldn't be affected.

saltairkid

Thanks for the insult "traveler"

Doubledareya

Oh, dearie me, stevie....I am so sorry to hear that. After all, our friendship is much too beautiful a thing to let wither on the vine.

But if it must be, it must be. :(

coaststeve

I will also quit feeding the troll

Don

I will quit feeding the troll...

Doubledareya

Now, now, Brian, simmer down...stevie has the right to free speech same as you do. You have the right to make personal attacks on people in this forum and to call them names (such as trolls) and he has the right to elicit hugs from straight guys and suggesting that take naps. But NAMBLA might not be everybody's thing, right? You both have the "right" to continue looking for love in all wrong places (as the song goes) do you not? So be of good cheer! .

Anyhoo...I hate to see couples like you two getting into these little spats. In fact, I am troubled by it to some degree. About 45 minutes ago I took stevie's advice and had a nice little nap that I just woke up from. It was a good one except for this dream I had. I dreamed that you two got into this big, heated argument about Linda's letter. One thing led to another and you two finally went outside and exchanged. blows. This is not the season to exchange blows or engage in fisticuffs or pugilistics of any kind. This is the Christmas season and is the time for goodwill among men. Why don't you two take Salmon Stir Fry's advice: Go eat some fruit.

Merry Christmas! :)

Brian

Please- don't let an attention-starved troll steal the message in Linda's letter. He is only here to disrupt. Ignore him.

coaststeve

Time for your nap ddy..((((((((((((((((((((((ddy))))))))))))))))..

Doubledareya

Don...thank you for answering a question that was clearly addressed to Brian. People like him often rely on highly intelligent and articulate people like you to speak for them every now and then. So what is the "instituted homophobia" of which he spoke? Is he going to man up and explain what that is or are you going to again do it for him?

alice

" Kind of like most marriages, don't you think?" Yes, I do think that and your good letter describes how I view the issue of marriage equality.. I really hope Oregon is next on the list of states who approve by voter majority.

Doubledareya


"Instituted racism?" What is that, Brian? I tried to Google it, but was unable to find anything about it. Please enlighten us.

Don

DDY - I wonder if its even worth arguing with you. Sometimes I think you may be intelligent, but then you attack over a spelling error or some other insignificant mistake.


Institutional racism is a pattern of social institutions — such as governmental organizations, schools, banks, and courts of law — giving negative treatment to a group of people based on their race. Institutional racism leads to inequality; sociologists use the concept to explain why some people face unequal treatment or occupy unequal statuses. One historic example of institutional racism is the barring of African-American students from attending certain public schools, which limited the students' educational opportunities and helped prevent them from achieving a status equal to that of others. Institutional racism need not involve intentional racial discrimination. For example, individual judges might intend to impose similar sentences for similar crimes; yet if Caucasian people tend to receive lighter punishments, plausibly institutional racism occurs.

Brian

Don,

Please do not feed the troll.

Brian

Linda,

Thank you for your letter. It's difficult to believe how much attitudes have changed over the last 20 years. In our lifetimes instituted homophobia will, like instituted racism, be just a reminder of how far society has come.

Brian

Don,

Please don't feed the troll.

Doubledareya

Don...I am not a homophobe. I'm not afraid of homosexuals at all. Never have been. Not hiding anything either.

All I did was agree with you and you suddenly seem to have gotten a little defensive for some reason. You need to lighten up a little. Or, as Salmon Stir Fry would say: Go eat some fruit.

Enjoy! And Merry Christmas! :)

Joe Mudder

If you can't speak about homosexuality without trying to correlate it with other things like you mentioned, YOU are clearly homophobic and are on the path to it coming out in other fashions. Seriously, go talk to your friend Larry Craig ( a prominent conservative politician who had a record of anti-gay legislation and then was caught in a gay s ex scandal).
Just like you always say DDY, it is always somebody else's fault, everybody wants to be a victim these days. The good news; there is treatment!

Don

DDY - Homosexuality should not be compared with bestiality or incest. You are so afraid of homosexuals and equal rights... Are you hiding something? People have posted before that there are studies that show a strong correlation between homophobia and the ability to be "turned-on" by the same se x.

Doubledareya

"Homosexuality is natural. Google it!"
--Don

I totally agree with Don.

So is incest and bestiality. Google it.

coaststeve

wow..must be some really odd parties at your house..

Don

"Ewe"!!

Don

Some people have nothing better to do. They want to tell people what can go on in their bedrooms and lives. Then they turn around and cling to guns and religion and tell the gov't to stay out of their lives!

Homosexuality is natural. Google it!

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