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DEVELOPING: Kill permits - good or bad?

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Posted: Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:12 pm | Updated: 3:21 pm, Sat Aug 24, 2013.

Some farmers and land owners in south county are upset over the issuance of kill permits - a tool used by Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife to address property damage caused by herds of elk.

Basically, land owners can get a permit from ODFW that allows them to kill a certain number of elk within a certain time period.

Herman Biederbeck, the District Wildlife Biologist with ODFW said they have statutory obligation to address property wildlife damage and these permits can be a useful tool - especially in the lower Nestucca River area where elk have realized they really like the taste of corn.

Those who have these kill permits are only supposed to kill cows and aren't allowed to keep the meat. The meat is donated to the Oregon Food Bank.

But some south county residents are concerned about illegal poaching - especially when one farmer was recently cited for killing two branch bulls - and the safety aspect of hunters killing elk at night. There were reports of 30 shots fired in an area with other houses.

This is a developing story and anyone with information or insight should email smoser@countrymedia.net.

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  • fauna posted at 2:01 pm on Fri, Sep 6, 2013.

    fauna Posts: 25

    I totally agree with leanderjuel. Very well said. Right now, in our community, some are treating our resident elk herds very badly. So terribly sad! I am sickened by this activity and am surprised that more people don't see this practice as cruel and inhumane. If the dairy farmers complained to ODFW and obtained these special permits, they still don't have to kill the animals. Shouldn't all other measures be exhausted first, such as scaring them off through loud noises, and other non-violent measures? Several years ago when I moved here and was thrilled to see the elk herd on Hwy. 101 for the first time, I called my friend who was staying in Yellowstone Park and paying good money for viewing and photographing elk herds there, and said, "I can see the elk right here in my community and I'm just driving back from the stores!" There is so much violence, now, in our world, that it just saddens me to bear witness to it in my own backyard. The night shooting is the worst of all. Under cover of darkness, no one can really monitor what's happening. The so-called "Kill Policy" should be abandoned and let the elk have a break, at least, before hunting season begins. Oh, I wonder how the hunters, here, feel about it, now that 2 bulls are no longer available to them?

  • fauna posted at 12:50 am on Thu, Sep 5, 2013.

    fauna Posts: 25

    I was not even aware that there was such a thing as "Kill Permits" until I saw the article in the Herald, but I was tipped off by my dairy farmer neighbor, who stopped me on the road last week to complain about his "Elk Problem." He told me that he wanted ODFW to get rid of as many elk as possible as they were harming his corn crop. I asked why they planted corn, anyway, in forested areas, which would draw in many animals. I am very concerned that the corn is GMO, since corn doesn't usually grow well in this climate and his corn looks very tall and healthy. I moved here to be close to nature and the beautiful wildlife, never thinking that the animals would be slaughtered in my neighborhood with the sanctions of ODFW and OSP. I am sickened by this and have made the calls to ODFW and OSP to voice opposition to this horrible and cruel policy. How many elk are laying in the forest injured because of the irresponsibility of the farmer who decided to spotlight and go on the killing rampage? And who can monitor all of this at night?

  • NetartsCb posted at 10:40 pm on Mon, Aug 26, 2013.

    NetartsCb Posts: 27

    I agree, odfw needs to better police the actions of these situations, this includes feeding the wild animals from feeders out of peoples yards. After all it is illegal to feed wild animals, making them tame and when hunting season comes along, the wild animal just walks up to the hunter. I suppose we should start with that bed and breakfast up Blaine road, there website gloats how they feed all the wild animals. Does this sound good Mrs. Johnson? Ill make the call tommorow to ODFW.

  • Bev Johnson posted at 5:39 pm on Sat, Aug 24, 2013.

    Bev Johnson Posts: 1

    We need some accountablility from ODFW. Seems like they hand out the kill permits and don't want to police the action, so the farmers can do whatever suits THEM without being in fear of reprisal.

  • THE SPEAKER OF TRUTH posted at 9:05 pm on Thu, Aug 22, 2013.


    I agree with leanderjuel, but what the article fails to say is this practice has been going on for years, and has managed to stay under the radar until a couple weeks ago when the "corn patch shoot out" happened at the 2.5 mile marker on Blaine Rd. and yes short-sided arrogance is an accurate description of some of the people involved.

  • leanderjuel posted at 3:23 pm on Thu, Aug 22, 2013.

    leanderjuel Posts: 21

    Lest we forget, the Native American tribes in the Coastal Range have confirmed that the bounty of Elk herds were here first. Lest we forget, if one wasn't fortunate enough to be born here, the reason why many have moved to this wild and wooly rural area is because of all the natural beauty which does include unhampered expression or natural evolution of wildlife. Lest we forget, as those people who came on the scene second, it is our inherent responsibility to think smarter on how to better contain or place barriers around that which we wish to keep the wild animals away from, such as a garden or corn crop.

    There is already too much killing being tolerated in this world and to think that ODFW permits are now being issued to allow folks to blithely pick off seemingly troublesome cows, we have also learned how at least one farmer has taken full opportunistic advantage and killed two bulls. This won't be a solitary instance. Plus, it sounds like there are bullets flying far too close to a neighborhood in the dark of night. None of this is about finding a prudent pathway or authentic answer because it entirely ignores where the true responsibility lies...which is with the human who must learn to either live with the natural grazing behaviors of these animals -or- take extra measures upon themselves to better protect that which they are enticing these animals with; Think: easy pickings.

    Similarly, it was awhile back that I learned of a neighbor who routinely left their garage wide open and when the raccoons from a nearby wood decided to take up residency during colder months, guess what their solution was for that perceived problem? It was to set inhumane leg traps to kill the animals, albeit, only after much suffering, but never once did they think about their own responsibility in this instance of 'a reaction to a lack of action' which would have been to barricade or block any wild animal's easier access.

    Surely, as the seemingly intelligent and creative creatures we think we are, we can come up with a slew of solutions other than to kill any 'enticed' problem. These animals are not a "nuisance"...unless their natural behaviors are going against the grain of certain humans who are not willing to take charge of the matter by acting proactively. I say leave the Tillamook County Elk herds alone. Again, in the hierarchy of life, it was they who established first residency.

    Ultimately, we must ask ourselves: Why is it that some use their lesser intelligence in the decision-making process which, in this case, is to impose unnecessary death (and trauma to the herd with motherless young) in order to solve a perceived problem that is seeded in their own carelessness and making.

    To me, this short-sided arrogance or deadly quick fix leaves no room for the application of basic common sense or appropriate empathy that sorely needs to be guiding us -on every level- during these increasingly contentious times. And by all that's morally just and humane, this includes the protection, not destruction, of wild animals because they are foraging for 'too easily made available' food.


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